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TURN OFF ALL ELECTRICITY BEFORE MAKING ANY POWER CONNECTIONS OR ELSE THIS COULD HAPPEN
 
 
Info on parallel and series wiring for 12 and 24 volt batteries
 
 
 
 
 
ONLY tighten the Blade Bolts with 5 ft. lbs. of torque or the mounting handles will crack!!
 
 
Installation
Any licensed general contractor can install this for you. If you can work with pipe, cement and electricity you can easily install an wind turbine.

Using #6 Welding Cable For Your Wind Turbine Generator Pivots! -
Slip Rings are not the correct technology for small wind turbines.
Welding wire is actually much more dependable and can't ever snap
off in freezing cold weather like the carbon brushes on slip rings can.
 
Using ONE large #6 cable provides proven 50 year + durability
Do not use three finer wires in three phase PMA output types! Not proven dependable!
 
 
DO NOT USE #4 OR larger welding wire!!!!! It will bind up into the pipe!!! Use ONLY #6 standard welding cable or UL1028 #8 gauge.
 
Sources for WELDING CABLE
For the best price on #6 Welding Cable call - Maney Wire & Cable at TOLL FREE Ph. 877-469-9473
If you need a tough but smaller wire size you can also try "#UL1028 #8 Gauge" - Maney Wire & Cable sells that too!
No one can give you lower pricing on wire and cable than-
Maney Wire & Cable Company / Call - Ph. 877-469-9473 or 909-230-4900
Maney Wire & Cable / 3559 EAST GUASTI RD. UNIT E / ONTERIO, CA 91761 / http://www.maneywire.com
Use #6 Welding Cable For Your Wind Turbine / Generator Pivots! -
Slips Rings Are Out Dated! - Here are all the good reasons why!
 
Welding cable is a highly specialized power transmission medium used for grueling applications that demand extreme resistance to twisting, turning, abrasion and pulling. Welding wire is also exposed to UV rays 10 x more intense then the Sun in welding rooms so it can withstand very high levels of UV radiation too. Welding cable is made using hundreds of very small, soft and ductile strands of annealed copper wire so it will last for well over 50 years while being subjected to over 2,000,000 cycles of twists, tugs, bends, turns and all other types of 'torques'. It is also water tight and the special rubber jacket is especially made to withstand millions of hours of abrasive action.
The professional welders who have used this great cable for almost a century dragging it over their rough shop floors decade after decade. Many welding machine's used during during WWII in ship building are still using the original cable that was supplied with those machine over 70 years ago and they are still going strong with no sign of replacement needed any time soon.
 

To replace the slip rings in your old wind turbine or to install one of ours you will need two pieces of 6# welding wire, one red and one black. This will go inside the pole tower and can withstand lots of twisting and turning motion.
You will also need to purchase a water pipe as your mounting pole. Choose schedule #40 -1.5" water pipe for light wind areas or schedule #80 if you live in a real windy or storm prone area. This pipe is available at any 'Home Depot' type hardware store. I would recommend you have them cut the pipe at 15 feet. This will give you 3 feet cemented into the ground and a nice tall 12 foot tall mast that will not require messy looking guy wires.
12 feet is just high enough to easily be worked on with an 10 foot painters ladder and is tall enough so kids can't get cut by the spinning blades. While you are at the hardware store buy a post hole digger and a few bags of premixed "post hole" cement too. Remember the welding wire is only to hold up top the twisting action of the turbine head in the pole. Welding wire is too expensive for long under ground runs. The longer run of wire can be done with UF type direct burial type wire. 10 gauge 4 conductor is fairly cheap. Double the wires up for maximum amperage. Twist the black and the white together to become the positive and then the green and copper together for the negative. A 250 foot box is about $120.00 at the Home Depot - Run this wire under ground as UF type wire is a water proof, direct burial type wire that is easy to install without need for conduit.. Finally connect this wire to your battery with the proper fusing. You are basically done with the hard part. What you do with your battery power is you own prerogative, grid feeding, powering an power inverter, heating water etc.
 
*Note: IF you use a foot pipe over 12 feet tall on a wind turbine that has a 65" or smaller blade diameter it will need guys wires or need to be at least Schedule #80 to resist bending when a storm hits!!! However wind turbines that have a greater than 65" diameter MUST have guys wire AND be mounted with schedule #80 pipe!
 
 
More On "No Slip Rings" - Our advice on slip rings is to use heavy rubber coated welding cable and don't worry about twisted wire. Twisted wires in the pole are an overrated problem in modern small wind turbines. Heavy rubber welding cable tends to simply unwind when it is under tension and the wind turbine head favorers turning in the opposite direction to effect unwinding. Welding cable has also magical qualities when it comes to taking continuous twisting and has incredible abrasion resistance when rubbing inside the pipe. Welding cable will last for about 50 years (Not even slip rings will last 50 years)
NO OTHER TYPE OF WIRE HAS ALL THESE QUALITIES EXCEPT WELDING CABLE! USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
In all our testing slip rings eventually failed and required maintenance while over 100 small test turbines equipped with #6 rubber welding cable operated with an exceptional 100% dependability factor for over 14 years now and counting. 100% reliability
 
NEW AGE - Why do you assume that the wires on a tiny modern wind turbine would "BIND" ?
These turbines are so scrony at only 19 lbs. They are so tiny they can't bind. Wind turbine have never before in WORLD history weighed this little.
It a new era, new ways of thinking have started. Any slightly twisted wires tend to just "UN-WIND" like a rubber band does.
 
Yet more on the - "NO SLIP RINGS" Topic
If you have #6 rubber welding cables and put them in a wind turbine tower pipe you can only turn them about 20 or 30 times in any one direction before they get tight. Interestingly enough this point they react like a giant Rubber-Band and try to turn the other way trying to unwind themselves. A simple rubber tension system was born from welding cable! It's very reliable, cheap and never fails. No moving or rubbing parts to fail. Welding cable is specially made cable designed to endure endless abrasion, twisting, bending and turning motions offering at least half a century of service life or more. Especially if it's in a dark pipe with no UV shining on it. It should last a life time.
 
WATER IN CEMENTED TOWER PIPES;
Drill a small 1/4 drain hole at the cement or ground level of the pipe. Fill the pipe with a few cups of liquid cement (water mixed with Portland cement powder only, NO sand or rock!!!) When this mixture comes out of your 1/4" drill hole then chase it with a gallon of clear water. If it clogs during pouring use a piece of wire until it flows clear water. DONE! - Water in pipe problem gone!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Tower strength
We only talk in terms of lateral loading or in simpler term sideways thrust or loading. Your Hornet turbine creates 1100 lbs of lateral loading at 115 MPH.
That is like a car with a rope tied to the top of your tower applying 1100 lbs to the tip of the mast in an attempt to pull it down. Your tower manufacture should understand this.
If you are in a cold area also remember about 'icing" that brings down more towers than just wind alone. In other words BUILD YOUR TOWERS TOUGH!
Using schedule #80 1.5" steel water pipe is the best choice over the cheaper and more common schedule #40 pipe.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
 
Q. How do you get the electricity down from the generator as it changes direction to face the wind? Would the wire get twisted without sliprings?
 
A. Our turbines do not have a tail that flips to the left or right in high winds so how can the wires get twisted??? This is a 70 year old misconception left over from a bygone era when ALL wind turbines made in the 1930's would turn in one direction for high wind protection. This would set the stage for twisted wires since an old style wind turbine would tend to make one to many left or right turns.
Now in the age of carbon fiber and other advanced materials blade can take winds at hurricane speeds that would normally snap old style wooden propellers. Now-A-Days using rubber welding wire is all that is required for dependable power transmission down the pole. Weld Cable is made for twisting, abrasion and tension resistance. Like a giant rubber band welding cable will never be able to make enough turns to get twisted-up before it desperately wants to release it's build up of tension energy and literally unwind itself in the pole. Welcome to the the new millennium and evolution from old ideas.
 
THINK ABOUT IT - A wind turbine manufacture brags about there brushless PMA's since brushes are undependable, they admit to the terrible dependability of carbon brush generators!
Now in the very next breath they then brag about the carbon brushes in there wonderful slip-ring assembly !! See a conflict of interest here ??

 

"Carbon brushes wear out, sooner or later but most often they fail by snapping like ice sickles in any

freezing weather and those are just a few of the cold hard facts against the use of carbon brushes in general"

 

 

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GET READY FOR THE WIND STROM More Hubbub / Self Straightening Hub - "Hub-Bub Talk HERE"
 
 
BATTERY TALES:
 
Hints for people that are attempting to operate a household and are not on the grid:
Get a fork lift battery! Try calling places that sell used fork lifts. The 12 volt batteries that run fork lifts are the best! Many of these old batteries are discarded because they can no longer operate a fork lift for a full 8 hour work day but they still have enough operational life to run your household for many decades. Many can be bought at recycling prices and still have 100 times more amperage than a brand new bank of automotive type batteries that will only last for 2 or 3 years.
 
Lifespan of battery types while engaged in demanding alternative energy use:
Cheapest bargain store bought automotive battery - 6 to 8 months life before it goes to the junk heap.
Professional battery store bought T105 battery - 2 to 3 years life before it goes to the junk heap.
Professional battery store bought L-16 battery - 4 to 7 years life before it goes to the junk heap.
Industrial bought Fork Lift battery - The one I own is 31 years old now, I will let you all know when it finally dies.
 
Customer Comments: "My fork lift battery has been powering our home for 27 years now and still charging strong!
I feel sorry for the people using 105's or L-16's, that is a great way to go if your goal is to
create a mountain of useless lead within your life time or run out of power in the middle of dinner.
This is the best advice you are ever going to get and it is your funeral if you do not listen!
Our 12 volt /110 AC inverters can run for weeks at a time on our monster sized fork lift battery."
 
 
Other peoples installations:
Custom 8 blade Hornet made by LES
Pivot leverage arm on 40 foot main mast
Pivot leverage hinge point in concrete and wiring including negative ground
 
 
 
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FOR GRID FEEDING YOU MUST BUY 24 OR 48 VOLT RATED WIND TURBINE'S
 
For 48 Volt Battery Charging and Grid Feeding -
SPIN YOUR POWER METER BACKWARDS AND
SAVE MONEY ON YOUR MONTHLY POWER BILL
 
GRID FEED With WIND POWER
 
Grid Feed with our 48 volt Hornet models HT48SC or HT48SCS
Keep in mind that you should have at least 4 to 6 wind turbines to justify the cost of
this grid Inverter. One wind turbine and one grid feeder is NOT a smart idea!
Think "Mini Wind Farm" here and then you are on the right track!
The GTFX3048 is a nice grid feeding unit for you to buy.
 
For technical questions check with:
 
http://outbackpower.com/products/sinewave_inverter/grid_tie -
http://outbackpower.com/pdfs/manuals/gtfx_gvfx.pdf
 
 
Please be sure to check this link for current availably, compatibly,
pricing and to familiarize yourself with all the statistics and other
data before buying a Grid feeding inverter from them.
 
 
RUN YOUR POWER METER BACKWARDS!
 
 
 
 
Build a Mini Wind Farm and Grid Tie to turn you power meter backwards.
 
 
 
Lightning Strike Protection.
 

So far I have never actually heard or seen any cases of a turbine being hit by lightning,,,, EVER!!!!!
Still waiting,,,, it should be interesting to see what's left over if one EVER gets hit.
In the case of lightning the turbines will probably be destroyed.
We have no remedy for a direct lightning strike and until it actually happens we are not going to worry about it much.

We have had at least 11 reported cases of people shooting turbines with guns. (They do make tempting targets for bored target shooters)
So statistically speaking you be better off getting a bullet proof shield for your turbines instead of worrying about any lightning Strikes.

Wire size and dump loads / extra notes-
 
The great thing about wind power is that the voltage goes up along with the wattage making power transmission very linear.
Do not try to stop a turbine by shorting out the wires! If the wind gets over 50 MPH they will burn out. Just let them free spin.
 
The best plan is always to use ALL OF the power during high wind events!!!!!!
I have made about 500 Gallons of FREE hot water during the biggest wind storms we get around here.
We take lots of luxurious and FREE hot water bubble baths after a wind storm : )

High Wind Speed Protection

Three Phase Power Transmission? Why Would You Use It?
Hear The Other Side Of The Story.
 
A. Wire Breakage
I would NOT recommend the 3 phase method since you will have 3 small wires twisting in the pole and this is going to cause an electrical failure sooner or later.
The way we install our systems using just one LARGE welding wire for the positive power going down the pole has enjoyed a 100% success rate! It is very durable.
 
B. Slowing Rust & Corrosion / DC negative grounding.
Another great unseen benefit for using the pole as the ground wire is that this STOPS rust by effectively ending electrolysis!!!
Negative ground DC systems are extremely effective at slowing the oxidation of metal also known as "Rust & Corrosion"
This is why autos and even bridges like the Golden Gate are negatively grounded with a DC power systems to slow Rust & Corrosion.
 
Breaking the AC/DC Long Distance Power Transmission Myth-
A Higher Voltage has much more to do with long distance power transmission over any of the AC / DC power arguments.
 
FACT: 48 Volts of DC power will have demonstrable less "Line Losses" levels when compared to say, 12 volts of AC power! Why?
 
Ultimately it is actually higher voltage that moves amperage in a wire since VOLTAGE = PRESSURE in electronic terms.
So if you need to run a power line 300 feet or more then you should seriously consider a 48 volt battery and power Inverter system!
 
So why do power companies use AC power for long distances? Using 50,000 Volts of DC would be ineffective since they are not trying to charge a battery.
AC power is easy to re-convert within any coil transformer. The important part is that they are using 50,000 volts of HIGH VOLTAGE and that is the
real key here and forget that it is AC or DC but rather concern yourself with the voltage. For long distances HAVING HIGH VOLTAGE is the BIG key!
All power is actually DC if you think about it! AC power is just DC power that is flip flopping back and forth at 60 cycles. All power is DC in nature BUT not all power is HIGH VOLTAGE and that's the important part you need to remember.
 
 
YET MORE INFO ON WHY THREE PHASE WIRED PMA's are NO GOOD -
 
It is VERY hard to run 3 wires down the pole and keep them from twisting.
We put the rectified inside our PMA's so you only one need ONE wire (welding cable) in the pole.
This works very well while having three wire is just to many and tends to be very problematic.
Electrical short on three wire / three phase PMA's will occur sooner or later so our testing has found.
Three phase or three wires in the pole is NOT RECOMMENDED!
 
READ our installation guide and about ONLY using ONE big #6 welding wire!!!
Three wires will never work for more than a year before failing.
 
 
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